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Let's Talk About CBT

Cognitive Behavioural Therapy: what it is, what it's not and how it can be useful.


Jan 31, 2020

Photo by Jonathan Hoxmark on UnsplashStriving for achievement has got to be a good thing, right? But what if it starts to get in the way of our happiness? What if the standards we hold ourselves to are unattainable or unrealistic? What if we feel like we'll never measure up? 

In this episode, Sam and Professor Roz Shafran speak to Dr Lucy Maddox about CBT for clinical perfectionism - what it is, what it's not, and how it can be useful. 

Show Notes

For more information here are some resources.


This is Roz's book on Overcoming Perfectionism

Or for a shorter booklet this is also written by Roz and published by the Oxford Cognitive Therapy Centre

Other Reading

This is a short article on clinical perfectionism by Roz and colleagues

For some free ACT resources from Dr Russ Harris check out his website (Sam talked about ACT)

The bullseye worksheet in these resources is the 4 quadrant image that Sam talks about:

The clinical perfectionism questionnaire  is on p39 of this article - it is 12 items long and gives you an idea of the sorts of problems that clinical perfectionism can exacerbate. If you are worried speak to your GP:

Some worksheets are available here on clinical perfectionism


Check out other podcast episodes on ACT

And compassion focused therapy


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